English Talk

[nino]

I'm sorry for jumping in.
but I think it's better to talk about peopls, and exactly persian people.
I want to say why other nations are not friendly toward persian peoples?
I mean why they do not trust on iranian?
they really don't accept iranians in any locations , organisation and any social movements.
I want to talk about this because I saw this. and surely I didn't find any reason for that.
why? why?
I asked this question in French topic but no one answerd me, so I came hear. I hope english talking peaples answer me.
Thanks.
If you think this not a good topic ,any problem we will talk about other things. we have a very big world that contains many topics!

dear friend​

this is s.th obviouse
why they should trust us by all this advertisement against us . but why we have lots of enemy becouse of our behavier in the international arena . in deplomacy and political and cos we r moslim​

this is also our fault . we didn't do any thing to recover and excel it​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

I'm sorry for jumping in.
but I think it's better to talk about peopls, and exactly persian people.
I want to say why other nations are not friendly toward persian peoples?
I mean why they do not trust on iranian?
they really don't accept iranians in any locations , organisation and any social movements.
I want to talk about this because I saw this. and surely I didn't find any reason for that.
why? why?
I asked this question in French topic but no one answerd me, so I came hear. I hope english talking peaples answer me.
Thanks.
If you think this not a good topic ,any problem we will talk about other things. we have a very big world that contains many topics!

actually i can’t believe that u search for a reason but you got nothing. in my idea the reason is obvious. i, as an Iranian girl, don’t accept Iranians in many locations, organizations, and social movements. our people accustomed to earn money and then eat it and then sleep. the next day again they repeat it. it’s the only thing they know. they never want to know more than it. the only fact they understand about life is eating and sleeping.
and the worst is when we come to the politics. do u really see something good(no, just normal) in our politics?
if u like it or not, i completely agree with those nations who don’t accept us. and if i could, i would not stay even for one minute here.
and another question: can u trust Iranians yourself that u expect others do?!
i cannot trust Iranians and whatever they say easily while i am Iranian myself (unfortunately)!​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

dear friend​

this is s.th obviouse
why they should trust us by all this advertisement against us . but why we have lots of enemy becouse of our behavier in the international arena . in deplomacy and political and cos we r moslim​

this is also our fault . we didn't do any thing to recover and excel it​

dear nino
i think that was not just advertisement, when we open our eyes we can see they were not advertisements. they're some fact which we cannot deny.
and about moslems i should say that again it's the result of some moslem's actions that they cannot chage their mind anymore about us...​

 

[nino]

dear nino

i think that was not just advertisement, when we open our eyes we can see they were not advertisements. they're some fact which we cannot deny.

and about moslems i should say that again it's the result of some moslem's actions that they cannot chage their mind anymore about us...​

oh dear sara
y r u seeing so negative ?
ya i agree that we couldn't even trust each others but this is s.th that situation cause and the only guilty people aren't iranian people , i think that it have lots of origins and it is a complicated matter , but i am sure that now no body do any thing to change it to better maybe shift it to worst position​

 

[hayaba]

hi dears !!!
i am completley agree with dear sara
you know ;they've changed us during the time, they give our culture,our essence & and we are good-for-nothing . here becomes like jail ,
everybody wanna to be free like a papillon (butterfly)
​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

oh dear sara

y r u seeing so negative ?

ya i agree that we couldn't even trust each others but this is s.th that situation cause and the only guilty people aren't iranian people , i think that it have lots of origins and it is a complicated matter , but i am sure that now no body do any thing to change it to better maybe shift it to worst position​

dear nino,
sorry but fortunately or unfortunately i think about most of the things negative....
but here my post was not because of my negative thought. it's a fact....yes, it's true everywhere but for iran there is no doubt in it....​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

hi dears !!!​

i am completley agree with dear sara
you know ;they've changed us during the time, they give our culture,our essence & and we are good-for-nothing . here becomes like jail ,
everybody wanna to be free like a papillon (butterfly)​

yes, and the most terrible thing here is when we look at the past...
america with all the things it has, has just a 500 years old culture. but everybody can talk in it. they don't make a jail for their people but here , iran, with a 1400 years culture can't allow people to talk freely and live freely. even now our people's minds involves with sth which are not important at all. you know our country can't improve while it's people just think about that if i and my boyfriend go out what will happen for me... if i wear this kind of cloths what will they do with me....if ...... we are fill with fears so there is no time to think about making everything better... and it's the exact point they wanted. they make us busy with sth rediculous to do whatever they want....​

 

[nino]

they make us busy with sth rediculous to do whatever they want....​

exactly true
and most aren't aware of that

 

[maral55]

oh dear sara

y r u seeing so negative ?

ya i agree that we couldn't even trust each others but this is s.th that situation cause and the only guilty people aren't iranian people , i think that it have lots of origins and it is a complicated matter , but i am sure that now no body do any thing to change it to better maybe shift it to worst position​

Unfortunelty I believe that this is exactly people's fault and that's it .WE were those people who did this and made ourselves misrable althought they were our parents but in general this is just our fault
those who throw people in the jail or who insult in the street beacuse of the dress and the make up you wear aren't anyone separte from us they are simply among us
those who do stealings and everything wrong in our economics and the thecnology those who restrict the net are among us
and mainly those who sell thier country to some bit of money they receive are just among us​

 

[leanthinker]

did u ever read the "Animals Farm" story? I think we are there! when the animals couldn't recognize the difference between humans and pigs! we don't have any rights here.
let them do whatever they want with us. we are lambs, we just agree because we cant do anything better. until we are worry about our food and shelter we cant think about something like culture or more.

did I said somthing bad? why u send me warning mail?

 

[sara_hyperactive]

did I said somthing bad? why u send me warning mail?

​

 

[allahyarzadeh]

I'm sorry my friends, but I'm not agree with none of you ,you all are talking like a man who has the key in his hand but he shout: I couldn't find the key.
first about our country and peoples I should say in every countries or I should say in any group of peoples we have bad or good ones.so I think, and again I think ,that it's not good to say all irainians are bad and much more bad peoples. If you say that they are advertising so I think these series of advertisement have very very good influence on you which you have turned back to your country and closed your eyes for real truth.
you all know what is the problem , but I wanted to show it to you yourself. did you get what I mean? surely not.
our problem is that exactley we do not know ourselves very well. when for example one of you which is iranian say that I could not tolerate such a misrable situation. how a foriegner could belive us.
No my friends we are not in very bad situation ,we are in a bad thinking of any situation.
we should think more because I should say that what I've said in my last message was not really truth. you all know in other countries we confront with many thinking and thinig methodes, we have so many peoples which they love iran ,yes they realy love.and maybe some of them dont like iranians.it's a real.
please my friends ,think more ,this is about our nation ,our destiny,our goals,our peoples.
just do not be a listener and audience. think. then you will find the way to love your country and peoples and try to make it better. perhaps we have many problems in our gevernment our minds but we can correct them.
(at last I'm sorry for my dictation mistakes , because I've typed these very fast ,again Je suis désolé)

 

[پیرجو]

Polite

Polite

did I said somthing bad? why u send me warning mail?

Please use polite words​

 

[maral55]

I'm sorry my friends, but I'm not agree with none of you ,you all are talking like a man who has the key in his hand but he shout: I couldn't find the key.
first about our country and peoples I should say in every countries or I should say in any group of peoples we have bad or good ones.so I think, and again I think ,that it's not good to say all irainians are bad and much more bad peoples. If you say that they are advertising so I think these series of advertisement have very very good influence on you which you have turned back to your country and closed your eyes for real truth.
you all know what is the problem , but I wanted to show it to you yourself. did you get what I mean? surely not.
our problem is that exactley we do not know ourselves very well. when for example one of you which is iranian say that I could not tolerate such a misrable situation. how a foriegner could belive us.
No my friends we are not in very bad situation ,we are in a bad thinking of any situation.
we should think more because I should say that what I've said in my last message was not really truth. you all know in other countries we confront with many thinking and thinig methodes, we have so many peoples which they love iran ,yes they realy love.and maybe some of them dont like iranians.it's a real.
please my friends ,think more ,this is about our nation ,our destiny,our goals,our peoples.
just do not be a listener and audience. think. then you will find the way to love your country and peoples and try to make it better. perhaps we have many problems in our gevernment our minds but we can correct them.
(at last I'm sorry for my dictation mistakes , because I've typed these very fast ,again Je suis désolé)

yea you are right in all of the countries good and bad poeple exists and even perhaps the bad more than here but the most important thing is that they HAVE GOOD STRICT LAW that provides the safety and health of all of the poeple agianst any harms the one we lack highly.But about the situiation of our country i think there is no more chance of even thinking that you say .
everyday all of things are chang and they became worse we don't have even one step to the forward
people are so much busy to earn money just for eating that they don't have time for thinking!!and even if we think there are no way we could change anything even a bit
and i think our problems has gone far more than these things we are near to the falling.​

 

[hayaba]

hi dears !
i think; you are free to do any thing until you don't break other's freedom
you know we are living in a country which they even think about
this rule ;& i'm completely agree with you dear LEANTHINKER ,
here is somewhere which our first needs for living like food and shelter
haven't become real yet.
​

 

[leanthinker]

hi dears !
i think; you are free to do any thing until you don't break other's freedom
you know we are living in a country which they even think about
this rule ;& i'm completely agree with you dear LEANTHINKER ,
here is somewhere which our first needs for living like food and shelter
haven't become real yet.
​

Dear Hayba
many tanks for your kind attention
we are not free to just say something
I don't expect more now from my country
I hope someday freedom comes true to our rights
I hope one day Iran becomes a proud country

 

[M.Deylamian]

dear freinds,i agree with your explanation about different problems that exist in our country . exept from the problems that have been made up by the restrictions which exist in our country, the others have been came from the bad behavior that we have,but as you know if we just trying to introduce different problem, feeling worry for them or being distressed, we wont' come to a reasonble conclusion ever.so finding a solution for some changble matter will be a hard work.
i wish we were more honest wth eath other.trust and honesty are the two word that is have been forgoten(have just been alive in the past)
but day after the day poeple chang to be good liers ,so how we could trust each other
all the time we say poeple are like this and like that but may be we have forgotten that this word returns to us ..poeple=me and you​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

I'm sorry my friends, but I'm not agree with none of you ,you all are talking like a man who has the key in his hand but he shout: I couldn't find the key.
first about our country and peoples I should say in every countries or I should say in any group of peoples we have bad or good ones.so I think, and again I think ,that it's not good to say all irainians are bad and much more bad peoples. If you say that they are advertising so I think these series of advertisement have very very good influence on you which you have turned back to your country and closed your eyes for real truth.
)

dear allahyarzade, there is nothing here for u to feel sorry about, because everybody has a special and different opinion which is respectable.
no we are not one of those men whom u said… but we are like some people who don’t have any key in their hand at all or they have the key but they know that after trying for opening the door with their key, sth terrible is waiting for them. of course i think the first case is much appropriate about us.
and my dear friend. what u see about us is not the influence of advertising , but it’s the influence of a great word: EXPERIENCE. we are living here and we are observing everything. there is no need for advertisement. and here we are like a person who works in a company and see whatever happens there. so he doesn’t need someone else to explain what is going there. he doesn’t need any advertisement because he is working there he is breathing here. he is monitoring every facts there.​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

we should think more because I should say that what I've said in my last message was not really truth. you all know in other countries we confront with many thinking and thinig methodes, we have so many peoples which they love iran ,yes they realy love.and maybe some of them dont like iranians.it's a real.
)

and about this part of ur content : “you all know in other countries we confront with many thinking and thinig methodes, we have so many peoples which they love iran ,yes they realy love.” i should say that yes exactly u r right …. but u also should consider that which countries love us as iranian peoples…. : Arabic people??!!! whom i never consider even as a human being, how can I pay attention to their thoughts about us…
their idea is not important for me…. the idea of some great countries in which some HUMAN live is important…. u know, some years ago, i chatted with a lot of ppl from different countries with different culture and beliefs.
most of Americans escaped after they understood my ASL while Arabic people insist for chatting with me. and they always said they love us!!!​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

please my friends ,think more ,this is about our nation ,our destiny,our goals,our peoples.
just do not be a listener and audience. think. then you will find the way to love your country and peoples and try to make it better. perhaps we have many problems in our gevernment our minds but we can correct them.
(at last I'm sorry for my dictation mistakes , because I've typed these very fast ,again Je suis désolé)

in free conversation part of this forum(gofteguye azad) i discussed about it with “sharif”, and at last i can say somehow a doubt came toward my thoughts. maybe she was right. i don’t know…. but anyhow i think, again I say that our people don’t deserve to do sth for them. i did love my country and it’s people some years ago, but now when i experience many things and when i see and hear some surprising things, i’ve change my idea… and my dear friend since i started to think , this happened to me. if I wanted to keep my mind close and don’t use it at all, i would see everything in my country beautiful and i would try to change the situation, but now my time and my energy worths more than this for me.​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

all the time we say poeple are like this and like that but may be we have forgotten that this word returns to us ..poeple=me and you​

but i've separated myslef from those humanbeings!!! for a long time​

 

[maral55]

dear freinds,i agree with your explanation about different problems that exist in our country . exept from the problems that have been made up by the restrictions which exist in our country, the others have been came from the bad behavior that we have,but as you know if we just trying to introduce different problem, feeling worry for them or being distressed, we wont' come to a reasonble conclusion ever.so finding a solution for some changble matter will be a hard work.

i wish we were more honest wth eath other.trust and honesty are the two word that is have been forgoten(have just been alive in the past)
but day after the day poeple chang to be good liers ,so how we could trust each other

all the time we say poeple are like this and like that but may be we have forgotten that this word returns to us ..poeple=me and you​

Dear Manda you know i don't like to look selfish but honestly i can not stand myself from saying these things
it haven't occured for me even one time i have and appoinment with somebody and he or she show on time unlike me that always had been there even sometime before the arranged time
this is just a little sample of the works people do with each other in this country
as Sara said i've parted myself from these people many years before and i do try to be good in all of the aspects of my life speacilly one that is related with others i've always had respect for all around me but many times they hadn't treated me with respect
i've always tried to be entirely honest with the people but unfortunetly our commiunity is full of lies that from morning till afternon people say to eachother​

 

[hayaba]

but i've separated myslef from those humanbeings!!! for a long time​

yeah...yeah...dear sara you are compeletly right
i've parted myself too,you know why!!!
it's very nice that i finally find some people that they think the same as me.
anyway i think the regim has changed the religion to a prison too
like the iran that have taken hostages since 1979.
​

 

[mohan]

i think its better to be right with our self , ts the best way that we can be in perfect harmony.......

 

[M.Deylamian]

but i've separated myslef from those humanbeings!!! for a long time​

this is just a little sample of the works people do with each other in this country
as Sara said i've parted myself from these people many years before and i do try to be good in all of the aspects of my life speacilly one that is related with others i've always had respect for all around me​

yeah...yeah...dear sara you are compeletly right

i've parted myself too,you know why!!!
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what a great society that every one has seprated itself from the other?.i know that you my best freinds are best in your manners and behaviors ,but you see, may be its the start of our problem...i! .
​

 

[maral55]

[/left]


what a great society that every one has seprated itself from the other?.i know that you my best freinds are best in your manners and behaviors ,but you see, may be its the start of our problem...i! .
[/left]

You're right maybe not the best solution but i think the only way!if you have some other better ways please let me know so perhaps iit can work for me​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

You're right maybe not the best solution but i think the only way!if you have some other better ways please let me know so perhaps iit can work for me​

or maybe we do this because of ourselves. i mean we are here just once and we should use our life in the best way. we should not waste our time because we are created to enjoy everything. so i think my life worth more than that i spend it with worring for a country which never thinks about me and do the most terrible things to me. i love my life and as a result i prefer to live like this!​

 

[M.Deylamian]

You're right maybe not the best solution but i think the only way!if you have some other better ways please let me know so perhaps iit can work for me​

hmmm. dear,mine has got lots of mistake. .as you and dear sara said every one has its
own way for living ,that i think its not acceptable for you.. its such a long time that i try to act as indivisual,it doesnt mean that i'v been apart from them because in this way the demands to the other is much higher.i think at first we must act and behave in the awy that is satisfactory for ourselves ...​

 

[maral55]

hmmm. dear,mine has got lots of mistake. .as you and dear sara said every one has its


own way for living ,that i think its not acceptable for you.. its such a long time that i try to act as indivisual,it doesnt mean that i'v been apart from them because in this way the demands to the other is much higher.i think at first we must act and behave in the awy that is satisfactory for ourselves ...​

I mean to say that simply we can not do such real things for the others. everyone is only responsible for her actions and free to act so it remains no other way to for example to teach a or to make someone how to have respect for the other citizens or other things.i think improving the statutes of the whole society is only reachable by everyone imporve her or himself indiviualy​

 

[parisan]

hi to every one.whats cookin?wish the best for all of u.if u be eager i can leave some useful proverbs that we can take advantage in our routin life, every 1 week.bye for now