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[maral55]

But my dear friend
I think in other cases the mother is deciding for her child but I think grandma and grandpa has this much right to see him and only see him. and In islam when mother died deciding about marrage( if it is a girl) is by grandpa maybe because the activities which shold be done by father now can be done by grandpa as his a man and he has the same abilities. But just grandpa can decide and I know that the uncle can not decide. and you know that the writen permission is not too much important which is important is the dauther can not marage without her ums permission because of her sens.

dear moongirl
i have seen that when the grandpa has deied they want uncles permision for the marage
but where are these activities that grandpas are doing
why cant i see them
only thing that i see is the mothers eforts for her childs in many cases
but even sopospe that grandpa is acculay doing some activites for the child
even in this case i think the mothers right is so so so much great than anyone else and this is a real insult that we get her permison of decision at all
her minimum right is that she asked about her child s life
and one more thing i dont agree that some works are men works and some are wmeons nowadys wemons are working same as men or even more than men and we have lots of women who are living without thier husband and they have grewn up very good childs
and my question is that for example that child i have writen about his father was alive and he distinct that his child will be more succesful in the foreign countirs in that case he could pick the child with him to any where he wants and not the mother nor anyone else such as grandma and garndpa could disagree
whats the resoan about thic problem in this case the mother or grand pa and grand ma doenst have this right to see thier grandson​

 

[maral55]

luckily I did not go to family court yet but what I hear is what I said but I heard that if a woman realy suffering from her life because of ligical reasons she can divorce but maybe you have experimences and observations that I am not aware from

dear moongirl
it depends that what you re mean with logic resoans
as i know logic resoans are only not paying money from husband and phisical abusing from husband these are only resoans in that case wemon can be apprated from her husband immideatly and without his permisson in other cases they should be present in court and her husband permit for divorce
but another important quostion
why men can be appretd from thier wifes with no resoan or when ever they wants
but wemon should have logic resoans for that
i have heard about the wemons sens and these stories but i think these are only stories and not logical reasons for limiting women and do not allow them to decide for her own life
as we see that it has proved these days in all over the world we have women who do anything and they are sucseed​

 

[moongirl]

dear maral
I really do not know that is it true that a man can divorce without any logical reason. what I saw is which TV shows and in all of them the court wants the reason of their desission

dear moongirl

it depends that what you re mean with logic resoans
as i know logic resoans are only not paying money from husband and phisical abusing from husband these are only resoans in that case wemon can be apprated from her husband immideatly and without his permisson in other cases they should be present in court and her husband permit for divorce
but another important quostion
why men can be appretd from thier wifes with no resoan or when ever they wants
but wemon should have logic resoans for that
i have heard about the wemons sens and these stories but i think these are only stories and not logical reasons for limiting women and do not allow them to decide for her own life

as we see that it has proved these days in all over the world we have women who do anything and they are sucseed​

 

[moongirl]

I said the islams rule and I read that if father and grandpa both of them died the girl did not want ermision from noone
the most duty of grandpa which give him right to decide for the girl after his dad I think is keeping (namoos I dont know the English)
and about your question I should say I dont have any logical reason so maybe it is beter to research about it

dear moongirl

i have seen that when the grandpa has deied they want uncles permision for the marage
but where are these activities that grandpas are doing
why cant i see them
only thing that i see is the mothers eforts for her childs in many cases
but even sopospe that grandpa is acculay doing some activites for the child
even in this case i think the mothers right is so so so much great than anyone else and this is a real insult that we get her permison of decision at all
her minimum right is that she asked about her child s life
and one more thing i dont agree that some works are men works and some are wmeons nowadys wemons are working same as men or even more than men and we have lots of women who are living without thier husband and they have grewn up very good childs
and my question is that for example that child i have writen about his father was alive and he distinct that his child will be more succesful in the foreign countirs in that case he could pick the child with him to any where he wants and not the mother nor anyone else such as grandma and garndpa could disagree

whats the resoan about thic problem in this case the mother or grand pa and grand ma doenst have this right to see thier grandson​

 

[maral55]

dear moongirl thanks alot for your answers and partidipating in the topic
anybody else want to say something about these questions
i still havent stisfied with the answers
and still awiating for any other resoans​

 

[moongirl]

not at all but I am agree that I didnot have any logical ansewr

 

[maral55]

not at all but I am agree that I didnot have any logical ansewr

dear moongirl
thank you very much for your cooperating in the topic as you know our basic and main aim is that learning and parcaticing english it seems that only we three folowing this topic and im very surprised about the resaon of that
maybe for the next topic we discuse about this!!
why in a the enginiers site we have such an english forum
by the way where is sara?
sara are you fine?​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

hi every one, esp dear maral.
i was so busy these days and i'm sorry for that. can you say your main question(s) in 1 paragraph. i think it helps everyone join the discussion better.l
regards
sara

 

[maral55]

the questions
first
why when a child 's father has deid the mother cant decide for her own child
second
why women dont have equal rights as men to get apparted from thier husband whenever they want
third
why should girls have thier fathers permisiion for maarrage
forth
why men can have more than one wife but women cant

and ... so i think its enough for now!!​

 

[afshin]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In physical cosmology, the term Big Bang has two related meanings. It is a cosmological model in which the universe has been expanding for around 13.7 billion years (13.7 Ga), starting from a tremendously dense and hot state. The term is also used in a narrower sense to describe the fundamental 'fireball' that erupted at or close to time t=0 in the history of the universe.

Observational evidence for the Big Bang includes the analysis of the spectrum of light from galaxies, which reveal a shift towards longer wavelengths proportional to each galaxy's distance in a relationship described by Hubble's law. Combined with the assumption that observers located anywhere in the universe would make similar observations (the Copernican principle), this suggests that space itself is expanding. Extrapolation of this expansion back in time yields a state in the distant past in which the universe was in a state of immense density and temperature. This hot, dense state is the key premise of the Big Bang.

Theoretical support for the Big Bang comes from mathematical models, called Friedmann models, which show that a Big Bang is consistent with general relativity and with the cosmological principle, which states that the properties of the universe should be independent of position or orientation.

The theory of Big Bang nucleosynthesis predicts the rates at which various light elements are created in models of the early universe and gives results that are generally consistent with observations. The Big Bang model also predicts the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB), a background of weak microwave radiation filling the whole universe. The discovery of the CMB in 1964 led to general acceptance among physicists that the Big Bang is the best model for the origin and evolution of the universe.

 

[maral55]

In physical cosmology, the term Big Bang has two related meanings. It is a cosmological model in which the universe has been expanding for around 13.7 billion years (13.7 Ga), starting from a tremendously dense and hot state. The term is also used in a narrower sense to describe the fundamental 'fireball' that erupted at or close to time t=0 in the history of the universe.

Observational evidence for the Big Bang includes the analysis of the spectrum of light from galaxies, which reveal a shift towards longer wavelengths proportional to each galaxy's distance in a relationship described by Hubble's law. Combined with the assumption that observers located anywhere in the universe would make similar observations (the Copernican principle), this suggests that space itself is expanding. Extrapolation of this expansion back in time yields a state in the distant past in which the universe was in a state of immense density and temperature. This hot, dense state is the key premise of the Big Bang.


Theoretical support for the Big Bang comes from mathematical models, called Friedmann models, which show that a Big Bang is consistent with general relativity and with the cosmological principle, which states that the properties of the universe should be independent of position or orientation.

The theory of Big Bang nucleosynthesis predicts the rates at which various light elements are created in models of the early universe and gives results that are generally consistent with observations. The Big Bang model also predicts the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB), a background of weak microwave radiation filling the whole universe. The discovery of the CMB in 1964 led to general acceptance among physicists that the Big Bang is the best model for the origin and evolution of the universe.

dear afshin
well i think you re a little late
the big bang was the first topic and our topic now is islam and the problems about women
but appriciate your participating​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

the questions

first
why when a child 's father has deid the mother cant decide for her own child
second
why women dont have equal rights as men to get apparted from thier husband whenever they want
third
why should girls have thier fathers permisiion for maarrage
forth
why men can have more than one wife but women cant​

and ... so i think its enough for now!!​

ok thanx honey.
for the first question the answer is : because here is IRAN
for the second question, the answer is : because here is IRAN
and for the third one, the answer is : because here is IRAN.

none of these questions relate to Islam's rules honey. there are many men who makes these rules in Iran and there is no surprise when you notice these situations here while women in this country dont want to contribute anything esp politic. but now we can not fight for that because its wasting time. there are some shorter way for solving such problems. for example when a girl is wise enough , she can mentioned manythings in her AGHDNAME because on that time men always obey their wives and even dont ask for the reason they just do whatever you want( no surprise, it's the begginning of their life) its really usefull for divorcing rights and many other rights

but dont forget these cases and many similar cases are not in islam or quran. they exist just in IRAN. and noone can change IRAN but us!l​

 

[maral55]

ok thanx honey.

for the first question the answer is : because here is IRAN
for the second question, the answer is : because here is IRAN
and for the third one, the answer is : because here is IRAN.​

none of these questions relate to Islam's rules honey. there are many men who makes these rules in Iran and there is no surprise when you notice these situations here while women in this country dont want to contribute anything esp politic. but now we can not fight for that because its wasting time. there are some shorter way for solving such problems. for example when a girl is wise enough , she can mentioned manythings in her AGHDNAME because on that time men always obey their wives and even dont ask for the reason they just do whatever you want( no surprise, it's the begginning of their life) its really usefull for divorcing rights and many other rights​

but dont forget these cases and many similar cases are not in islam or quran. they exist just in IRAN. and noone can change IRAN but us!l​

dear sara
thank for your answers
but i think some of them are in quran and islam for example abour more than one wife simply we see that moslems guid mohammad and his life
and all of holey of moslems say that these are islams rules​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

dear sara

thank for your answers
but i think some of them are in quran and islam for example abour more than one wife simply we see that moslems guid mohammad and his life

and all of holey of moslems say that these are islams rules​

yes you are right. but i talked about those three question. but for the others for example the right of having more than 1 wife, yes its in quran and there is no logical reason for that. ofcourse these ISLAM MAKERS have a lot of reason for that but all nonsense. for example they say that on those time men were few because of wars and women need a MAN's support to live better(thogh most of them were not men, if you know arab men) but when you answer that a man could help a woman without marrying her, they said so what happen for women's sexual needs!!!! you know i belive that all of them are excuses not real reasons. at least the prophet of islam could marry once and said others that you have this right because men are few and we have many alone women!!!!l​

 

[maral55]

yes you are right. but i talked about those three question. but for the others for example the right of having more than 1 wife, yes its in quran and there is no logical reason for that. ofcourse these ISLAM MAKERS have a lot of reason for that but all nonsense. for example they say that on those time men were few because of wars and women need a MAN's support to live better(thogh most of them were not men, if you know arab men) but when you answer that a man could help a woman without marrying her, they said so what happen for women's sexual needs!!!! you know i belive that all of them are excuses not real reasons. at least the prophet of islam could marry once and said others that you have this right because men are few and we have many alone women!!!!l​

dear sara
yae unfortunatley i ve heard about those reseons
i hope if they want to continue saying these things search and find some more logical resons for that!!!​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

dear sara

yae unfortunatley i ve heard about those reseons

i hope if they want to continue saying these things search and find some more logical resons for that!!!​

when there is no logical reason, even if they search alot they can't find any. they just want to make us busy and make us accept whatever they say to have a more steady place to stand on and increase their power. it is dirty POLITIC.​

 

[maral55]

when there is no logical reason, even if they search alot they can't find any. they just want to make us busy and make us accept whatever they say to have a more steady place to stand on and increase their power. it is dirty POLITIC.​

yes
but not only those who have power most of the moslems belivie in these rules without searching in the resons they do these things without asking themselves why are we doning and accpecting such wrong rules for example about heriatage and paying it to the sons and duathers or other things
i think we should notice and search and find out whether these rules are right or wrong or wheter they are acually islams rules or not​

 

[sharif]

big bang

big bang

big bang is the beautiful matter

who is the guestion this matter tell me im try the explain for u
excuse me my lenglish language is a very badly
im a 16 years old and i dont like the english because hesesh nabud

 

[maral55]

big bang is the beautiful matter

who is the guestion this matter tell me im try the explain for u
excuse me my lenglish language is a very badly
im a 16 years old and i dont like the english because hesesh nabud

dear sharif
if you wanna go to sharif university and study there then your english should be very good becuase all of the students there are so skilled in it and even they all planning to continue they re studies out of the country and maybe if you get such a decision also your english should be the best​

 

[sharif]

ok

ok

tanx maral 55 i know this matter
but what i must do

 

[afshin]

English

English

Dear Sharif,
I recon that it is difficult, but you should consider that
we all are here(In this forum to practice English
In my opinion it will be gug idea that people
correct others English as well.
​

 

[maral55]

tanx maral 55 i know this matter
but what i must do

dear sharif i suggest you exercising english from now and the english clsses can be very usefull if you follow them for years
hope the best for you​

 

[maral55]

Dear Sharif,

I recon that it is difficult, but you should consider that
we all are here(In this forum to practice English
In my opinion it will be gug idea that people
correct others English as well.​

dear afshin
im agree with the idea of correcting each other 's english it can be usefull and we learn many things
dear sara
wainting to hear from you honey​

 

[afshin]

Correction

Correction

Dear Maral,
I just want to say it will be useful to correct
each other, but sometimes people
.want to show themself in these situation
Regards,​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

hi every one,
it's a nice idea but you know our sentences are full of different mistakes and correcting all of them takes much time. so if you are not so busy and have enough time spending here, it's the best way for practicing english.

and afshin about your statement i have to say in a virtual world whats the advantage of showing off ? but even if it's like this i think it's not bad that some one for showing himself/herself help us to improve our english it's usefull for us and at last nothing
happen for that man.
AGREED?​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

yes

but not only those who have power most of the moslems belivie in these rules without searching in the resons they do these things without asking themselves why are we doning and accpecting such wrong rules for example about heriatage and paying it to the sons and duathers or other things

i think we should notice and search and find out whether these rules are right or wrong or wheter they are acually islams rules or not​

and about our discussion , dear maral what will happen after we have searched and find out that for example they are not isam rules or they are wrong? you are living in IRAN and if you understand everything you can not change even one of them. about heritage case, after you noticed for example this rule is not fair and its not logical, what happen then? can u change the rule dominateing here. the only way for solving these terrible thing is traveling to abroad and have a peaceful life. because we are alone and weak -beside these powerful politics man- actually i dontt want to waste my beautiful life!​

 

[maral55]

and about our discussion , dear maral what will happen after we have searched and find out that for example they are not isam rules or they are wrong? you are living in IRAN and if you understand everything you can not change even one of them. about heritage case, after you noticed for example this rule is not fair and its not logical, what happen then? can u change the rule dominateing here. the only way for solving these terrible thing is traveling to abroad and have a peaceful life. because we are alone and weak -beside these powerful politics man- actually i dontt want to waste my beautiful life!​

yeah
agree with you totaly about traveling to abroad !!
its a fantastic idea
and completey agree with not wasting our beutiful youth in this country but what if someone cant do that
in that case i think its somehow possible to live in Iran and not being so backward
minimum is that in those cases thats not related to the socitey and its in our private family we can choose the best way for example about relations between men and wemon if both of them are consouis people and about fathers and such things like this​

 

[maral55]

whats the next conversation subject?​

 

[sara_hyperactive]

dear maral,
u can choose the next topic urself and again start talking about it even if no one share in it except usl.

 

[معمارباشی]

hi
!i hope we cauld help each other to improve our english
my english is very weak
!sorry if i have bad spelling or wrong grammer in my sentences
......well
i tried to read most of the posts in this topic
but it was so much that i didn't have time to finish it
so maybe the subject i chose is token before
!so tell me about that
!in the world (موقعیت) what do you think about iranians
!what shoud we do as an iranian to make our country better
........​

thank a lot
!for you'r good forum​